yep i noted 149 - 153 as pretty suanders-esq too, that goofy truncated style he sometimes uses, semplica girl diaries for instance.
what do yall think about ali smith gifting/crediting her beautifully exhilarating, disorienting, & poetic opening chapters to a 12 year old??
i loved the revelation that they are FROM somewhere… it didnt bother me necessarily that a 12 yr old supposedly wrote that. she’s supposed to massively precocious & magic & all that… so my feeling was… sure whatever! was it not persuasive for u?
Something little – the way you both spoke about Brit’s general indifference esp. towards politics, parallels to me with the bit of her trying to read Florence’s jacket “Vivunt spe” … but she only knows “viv,” so she doesn’t “see” the “hope” if that makes sense…
I do feel like there is a large sense of hopelessness throughout the millennial generation, or just has been for a while, like an acceptance for things we feel that we can’t change. (…not okay…)
I love Florence and her gen Z zeal! Gen Z’s are more than hopeful, they are confident in their ability to change and it is so so admirable!
i thought that the twelve year old IS florence. when brit is reading her journal, she notes one of the entries, saying, “one is like a lot of the far right and far left stuff that people say, and the girl has written it all in different sizes of writing, some bits in captials.” then she says another one is told from the voice of social media.
no not at all!! i loved the reveal too! in fact, it elevated her and solidified my obsession with florence as a character
I wonder whether Brit really does have a lack of awareness! It certainly sounds like it in a way…
but at the same time, we saw in her discussion with Josh that she doesn’t seem to care much (p. 157) and I think in order to be of that mindset, she needs an awareness of some sort! (there needs to be something to “give a fuck” about)
maybe she does understand what’s going on to the point where she feels numb, maybe she understands well enough to know that there’s almost nothing she can do to unravel the really complex issues that have allowed the centre to even exist.
@jyvescuda has summed up part of what I’m trying to say as I have been writing this!
well spotted! doesn’t she then text josh and asks him to translate it? She could just google it and answer her question herself. Instead she hopes others will do it for her. maybe a metaphor for her general approach to solving issues? letting others do it and hoping she’ll get away with not caring enough? Maybe an overinterpretation and she just wanted to text her ex to let him know she’s thinking about something clever?
Was I the only one who saw similarities in Florence and in Richard’s imaginary daughter?
As for Brit, I think she’s very self-aware, but feels that she has no choice in the matter, and so doesn’t let her job get to her, even though it absolutely should. That’s why she was so thrown when she didn’t say goodbye to the hedges, because that little tradition helps silo her job away from her ‘real’ life, but when she forgot to close the loop, she was in danger of bringing work, and her feelings about work, home with her.
i sort of saw that moment as her way of changing. she hadn’t texted him since the fight, when he pointed out how her job has made her insensitive. she literally asks him how to live in hope.
Reeally really like this connection between Florence and Richard’s imaginary daughter. That is gooood
great observation. could be possible where we have the missing pieces click in florence & richard, the child w no parental figures & the man who’s missing a daughter.
i was thinking the same thing for florence and richard’s imaginary daughter! i thought at first that she actually was his daughter, and they were travelling to scotland to find him, which was why she was so vague about her parents.
I did too, but then I realized that the timeline would be off. But I think, like @esh said, they are each in need of the other to fill a hole in their lives.
re: hopelessness in the millennial generation
lindsey ellis recently dived into protest music from the 2000s forward, and the general sentiment she found was: “we can’t change any of this but luckily what we thought were the biggest problems (bush’s presidency) was only temporary.” protesting for us, in reality, was just waiting it out. believing that we can’t change any of this is brit’s hopelessness and waiting it out is her laziness. the harder work is challenging ourselves to dig deeper & define the underlying problems, and realizing that they are solvable (hope)
edit: that’s such an ugly thumbnail lol, sorry <3
Does anyone have any idea why the woman in the van knows about Florence?
Love this & tbh was quite excited by the thumbnail, lol – can’t wait to watch in full!! Ty for sharing <3